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Erik "NO" Lehnsherr [Blade | Magneto] ([personal profile] grandstanding) wrote in [community profile] driftfleet2016-08-08 08:31 pm

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Who: The Heron crew + visitors
Broadcast: nope
Action: The Heron
When: August

[As the ship drifts on, what are you up to this month, Herons?]
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[personal profile] reconstitution 2016-09-27 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
I saw it, I talked to Wrath.

[ He looks down the hall briefly, then back to her. ]

Sometimes you can't see everything from one side of the story.
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[personal profile] aigue 2016-09-27 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
[She squints slightly, appraising him for several moments before moving away from the door and heading back towards the bed to sit. He's free to come in.]

It has nothing to do with you, so there's no point in bothering.
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[personal profile] reconstitution 2016-09-27 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
[ He lets her get settled before moving into her room and leaning against the wall by the door. ]

Wrath is my friend, and I'm your Captain. I'm involved. I'd like to hear from you before I make a judgement.
aigue: (hmm)

[personal profile] aigue 2016-09-27 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
[She doesn't agree with that, but she isn't in the mood to argue with him.

Her room is still very basic. The only notable thing is that she's piled a bunch of blankets and pillows up in the middle of her bed to make a nest.]


I tried to communicate with a fox in the way foxes communicate with each other. She took offense I was treating him like an animal instead of her dress-up doll. That's it.
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[personal profile] reconstitution 2016-09-27 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
She was worried he would be hurt. To her, he's a member of her crew. What were you trying to communicate?

[ He's not angry, just piecing things together. ]
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[personal profile] aigue 2016-09-27 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
Where we both stood with each other. For foxes that means pushing each other over, or making one crouch low to the ground.

[Fox lesson! She purses her lips.]

She shouldn't have one around if she doesn't understand how it communicates. [Or you know, at all.]
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[personal profile] reconstitution 2016-09-27 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
You were in the process and she intervened.

[ He can see how it would be frustrating. ]

There was a planet about six months ago, Arslae. The locals had domesticated the foxes for pets. Some of them found their way into the fleet on various ships. He's certainly taken care of.. but I don't know if that helps you.
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[personal profile] aigue 2016-09-27 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
[She actually scowls at that.]

It doesn't. How would you like it if you saw humans being bred into subservience by some other creatures? To the point where they hardly acted like humans at all. And if you confronted them about it all you got was 'Oh, they've been domesticated', as if that's a perfectly reasonable response?
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[personal profile] reconstitution 2016-09-27 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
[ Oh boy, that sure rings a few bells. He frowns, letting her finish. ]

Humans do it to themselves, they don't need any other creatures for it. I understand your position a little better than you think.
aigue: (alert)

[personal profile] aigue 2016-09-27 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
[That's what Finn said, and he uh. He admitted to being brainwashed.]

Do you?
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[personal profile] reconstitution 2016-09-27 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
For a long time, I was treated like a thing and not a person. They took my name, my memories. Only took me out of storage long enough to do what they wanted me to.

[ It's not exactly information he wants everyone to know, though who would? ]
aigue: (sigh)

[personal profile] aigue 2016-09-27 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
['Out of storage' sounds pretty serious.]

So you do know.

[She sighs.]

That woman had no desire to listen.
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[personal profile] reconstitution 2016-09-27 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Not after she thought you were trying to hurt him, no. Being aggressive gets her attention, but not in a way that's really good for getting a point across.

[ He's quiet for a few moments before he looks back at Renart. ]

We can't just let them off into the wild on a planet they're not familiar with. They could die if they aren't familiar with hunting something bigger than vermin on a ship.
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[personal profile] aigue 2016-09-27 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
If she knew anything about foxes she would have known what I was doing. She's irresponsible and has no right to be forcing her will on a fox when she knows nothing about the species.

Obviously not. I'd suggest returning to the planet they came from, but we have no control over that.
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[personal profile] reconstitution 2016-09-28 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think she forced her will-I think Snuggles chose her. Even if she hadn't gotten him, someone else would have. The people on Arslae have domesticated them for so long, I don't know that their instincts are as honed as yours. They certainly can't talk.

Maybe you should make a network post with information for fleet members with foxes. It might be helpful from the perspective of one.
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[personal profile] aigue 2016-09-28 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
She forced her will by bringing him here, and the rest of the people on that planet did the same when they decided to domesticate those foxes. If they hadn't done what they did his mind wouldn't be brutalized as it is.

[She scoffs.]

The ones who should listen wouldn't. We're all the same to them.
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[personal profile] reconstitution 2016-09-28 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't change the fact that it did happen, and there's no going back on it. They can't change it any more than I can change what happened to me. The foxes are here and they have a space for their own use and no one mistreats them.

I'm not saying you have to be happy about it, but you do need to try to be civil. If the people with foxes feel like you're a threat, they'll stop using the park, which limits where they can go that's anything like the outdoors.
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[personal profile] aigue 2016-09-28 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
They're being inherently mistreated by being cooped up on these spaceships or in that park. The only real alternative is one no one would agree to, because god forbid they no longer have something they can own.

I've been completely civil. She was the one who threatened me.
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[personal profile] reconstitution 2016-09-28 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
She threatened you because she thought you were hurting him. Tensions have been high for a few months.

You're right, it's not likely they'll agree, so there needs to be a compromise.
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[personal profile] aigue 2016-09-28 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Then she should apologize.

[She is totally not expecting one, she just wants to see if she can wrangle it. #Smugfox.]

I'd personally like to not be harassed and treated like a pet at the park. And that place should be more than some fake snow, and it shouldn't be accessible to humans. [She shrugs.] But no one will agree to that.
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[personal profile] reconstitution 2016-09-28 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
There might be a way to make something like that. Plenty of room on the Iskaulit. There are enough engineers that they might be able to make a snow machine- they've made plenty of asinine things.

I don't know that humans wouldn't access it to watch the foxes, but a space for them closer than the Marsiva might not be a bad idea?
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[personal profile] aigue 2016-09-28 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
There would need to be actual earth. Foxes dig, you know. Even the domesticated ones. We like to destroy things.

[She's really hoping they didn't take that away from that fox, at least.]

They'd still want to go in and treat them like pets. And they'd argue that it's okay because they're domesticated.

[So it's sadly a very circular problem.]
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[personal profile] reconstitution 2016-09-28 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I don't know a whole lot about foxes. You'll have to fill me in.

I mean, I am living in close quarters with one.
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[personal profile] aigue 2016-09-28 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
We aren't dogs, to begin with.

[She cannot stress that enough.]
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[personal profile] reconstitution 2016-09-28 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
I knew that much. Easy enough to trick a dog. It's the foxes who are wily.

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