universal_charm: (Defiance)
James Tiberius Kirk ([personal profile] universal_charm) wrote in [community profile] driftfleet2017-06-23 12:38 am

Captain's Log 11 - Calling All Captains

Who: Kirk + Fellow Captains and First Mates
Broadcast: Yes
Action: Yes; On the Marsiva
When: After this post

[ Broadcast ]
Given the recent events, I think it is prudent that all current captains and their first mates meet. It has been some time since we've had one, to my knowledge, and I believe it to be in our better interests to discuss the change in circumstances.

I'll secure a space that can fit us all, and let you know where and when soon.

[ Action ]
[ Kirk had secured a space that was both relatively private and large enough to fit all of the captains and first mates. At least being on the Marsiva meant that everything here was more or less neutral ground, even if it didn't feel like the safest place to meet per say. But putting this off until they got off it didn't feel right either, so best to make the most of it.

Hopefully all the captains would come, and their first mates, and they could try to make sense of the most recent events. Because someone had to, right? ]
namisan: (hrmnmnn)

[personal profile] namisan 2017-06-26 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
"So we've basically decided we need to do something but we don't know what and we don't have any information that helps, so that's all very useful." Don't take Nami personally. She's been in a bad mood for days, and she knows that's not very fair. Doesn't stop her, though.

"I get it, I really do. This whole situation grates, and just sitting here and taking it doesn't really sit well with any of us. ...most of us." A quiet amendment. "But I don't think we're going to work out a plan of action here, on this ship. It's their home ground, and they pulled us in precisely so they could have the most control over us possible. Hell, I bet you anything if we managed to come up with some brilliant scheme we'll have all forgotten it after tonight because they'll be paying razor close attention.

"Complaining about it doesn't help either, I know. But I'd suggest people individually compiling all the slivers of information they can and maybe the captains touching base with each other a heck of a lot more often. As a start."
alwayscomeback: (With without)

[personal profile] alwayscomeback 2017-06-26 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
"That's the truth. We're in no place to do anything, and we don't have any information to fall back on even if we did."

It's the same old story. Atroma have more cards than they do, and until that changes, they're sitting ducks. He rubs the back of his head.

"I'm all for us touching base more often. Maybe make it a monthly, bi-monthly meeting? Something like that? Share whatever we find out. The only way we stand any chance is sticking together, after all."
passingthrough: (Thoughtful - Gentle)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2017-06-27 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Kitty nods. "Just working as a team instead of separately should be something." And it feels like they mostly have nothing here so, it felt worth adding. "We can get more accomplished together. And these calibrations are going to take a toll which they probably want."
goldenglasses: Maker on LJ (Ultimate Krispy Kreme fan)

[personal profile] goldenglasses 2017-06-30 10:51 am (UTC)(link)
Vash has been quietly listening to the discussion. So far the only thing he's really come to a conclusion is that Signy reminds him too much of the crazy "shoot first ask questions never" type from back home for his liking. Not that he would ever outwardly show that.

"I think leaving things like this for now is for the best. For us to focus on the things we see on this ship while we're here and then coming together to put together what we can find and remember.

The last time this happened the longer we stayed the more we could see and notice of the ship." Vash's eyes flicks towards the people who have experienced calibrations like him before. "I remember writing down something about a media file and then after found they add those clips and music to our communications.

Now, that was mildly useless in the end, but maybe this time we could find something a bit more helpful?" He doubts it, but he likes to be the hopeful type.
tallasaking: (Standing alone)

[personal profile] tallasaking 2017-06-30 12:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Tyrion has been playing with his glass of wine, well in the back of this group. Sitting quietly and listening, mis-matched eyes thoughtful, before he stated simply.

"We could do nothing at all."

He leaned over to take another sip, and glanced at the others, "Passive resistance, I believe it is called. They clearly want us to do 'things'. What if we do ... nothing?"
Edited 2017-06-30 12:06 (UTC)
alwayscomeback: (And all the faults you've left behind)

[personal profile] alwayscomeback 2017-06-30 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
"Nothing."

Sokka takes a moment to let that sink in.

"Like...at all? Won't that just force them to make us do something? They need those ratings, after all, and they're not afraid to use our augments to make that happen."
tallasaking: (Default)

[personal profile] tallasaking 2017-07-01 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
"Aaaah, but there's the thing. They can use the augments to make us do things -- but are they at all natural? No. I cannot remember a single glitch where the person acted in any way short of disturbing. It was not, as you might think, 'a fun watch''." Tyrion arched an eyebrow at all of them.

"What do we have to lose?"
namisan: (srs face on)

[personal profile] namisan 2017-07-01 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
"I think your view on augments is limited," Nami says. "Many of the ones I've seen happen seem keyed to generate drama around them. Or comedy. Either are audience draws. People have been made grievously sick, people have turned into walking advertisements for the Atroma. Suddenly turning into kids seems popular. They're all disturbing, granted, but that's because we're finding them disturbing. We are not the target audience. It's easy to find these things entertaining when you're not directly involved.

"Aside from that--" And she frowns. "There are two other problems with that. I mean, it's really, really tempting to spit in their face no matter how we can. But you'd have to get the entirety of the Fleet to agree to sit and do nothing, and that just isn't achievable. Even if it were, you couldn't sustain it. We're not built that way.

"And even after all that, if we somehow managed to achieve such a massive dip in ratings, I'm not confident that would result in any favourable outcome to us. If we were useless to the Atroma as a way to get ratings, what's to say they won't just switch us off, or jettison us out into space? Wipe the board, get a new group more willing to comply?"

Playing the long game is their only real option.
passingthrough: (Watchful - Calm)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2017-07-02 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Kitty was trying to take in the passive resistance idea. It has some merits. Of course it does. Tyrion came up with it. Nami has a point that executing it would be hard. It might be one thing if they were captains of crews that trained for this and signed up with them, but they aren't. They're just people who took charge or were randomly assigned it. That doesn't mean it's impossible, but it won't be easy and what if the Atroma run them into a fleet of raiders? Are they really going to do nothing while they're under attack? Or they could just set off the augments as mentioned. It always comes back to that.

"So, we've crossed out doing something and doing nothing. We're really on a roll." The sarcasm is strong, but she doesn't mean it harshly. It's just a hard situation. She spent so much time in the prison she was in before waiting and gathering info and trying to cultivate a team and none of it ever got them anywhere. Maybe it would have been more emotionally satisfying and better for morale to just try and blow something up. They might have at least learned something useful from it. But she'd be risking a lot of lives on that bet.
norwaysown: (unimpressed 1)

[personal profile] norwaysown 2017-07-02 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Signy wasn't happy about this at all, because it wasn't doing anything. It wasn't even doing nothing as a deliberate tactic (which had seemed a poor one to her battle-formed mind but was at least a tactic).

"We certainly won't get a second chance if we never take a first one. How long have some of you been here, and how likely do you think you are to spot a weakness now when you haven't before?"
alwayscomeback: (And all the faults you've left behind)

[personal profile] alwayscomeback 2017-07-03 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
"I've never seen an opening, or all that much of a weakness in all the time I've been here, and I've been stuck here since near the start."

Which is frustrating. Sokka has gathered so much intel, so many starmaps, carefully made paper copies of everything he's found, every sliver of information, none of which have lead to anything, at all. He frowns.

"...The closest thing I ever saw to them having anything like a weakspot was when they Interceptors knocked our ships into a nebula. We lost power, had to try and get them back online, but while we were offline, it seemed Atroma couldn't get control. They effectively lost us for a while." he pauses. "...Of course, that could have all been scripted, it's impossible to tell."
goldenglasses: Maker on LJ (You can't tell but I'm asleep right now)

[personal profile] goldenglasses 2017-07-04 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'll be at three years in about four months. I was here day one of cycle twelve." He's not proud of how long he has been here. Just stating a fact. "And yeah, what Sokka said, pretty much that's the only time I've seen Atroma act like they weren't in control was during that time we were knocked into the nebula. During that time there were moments where it seemed like we came back online when they weren't expecting it. They had to scramble to make it seem like they meant to start talking to us again.

Could it have been scripted?" Vash shrugs as it very well could have been. "But it's the only thing we've gotten so far."
namisan: (hah...yeah)

[personal profile] namisan 2017-07-05 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
Nami shifts in her chair, about to say something, before she suddenly stops and looks unsure, settling down in her seat again.

She has plenty to say about the Interceptors. She just doesn't think here is a good place for it. First meeting elsewhere, then.
passingthrough: (Contemplative)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2017-07-06 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
"If we take a wait-and-see plan that's been going on in some form for almost three and a half years how long are we ready to wait?" Just posing it, but that reminder is making her reconsider. Maybe it was better to just try something even if they could theoretically already expect a counter.

"Maybe we're wrong about some of their abilities. Maybe we need to be testing our boundaries to find their weaknesses even if there could be consequences."
norwaysown: (command)

[personal profile] norwaysown 2017-07-07 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
"Check in with each other to what degree? We can't be relying on unanimous agreement to do anything, and we don't have much of a system of command here." Which is certainly a problem.
namisan: (hrm issue)

[personal profile] namisan 2017-07-08 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
Sigh.

"This might all be better ironed out somewhere that's not Atroma Central," Nami says quietly.
goldenglasses: Maker on LJ (The glasses are ON now bitch!)

[personal profile] goldenglasses 2017-07-08 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
"I agree with Nami on this one." Personally he would like this kind of talk off of all the ships.
passingthrough: (Calm)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2017-07-08 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Just nodding her agreement to that. She doesn't think they have much chance hiding their intentions, but they need to try their best, right?
norwaysown: (concerned 1)

[personal profile] norwaysown 2017-07-08 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"Why?" Mallory asks. "Why does it matter if they know that we're trying to come up with a strategy against them? We don't have one yet, regardless of where we discuss it." She would assume they can listen in no matter where they are, which means coming up with a better strategy, one that can survive that, or working entirely alone. "I'm suggesting that we talk to each other less."
goldenglasses: (Ew.)

[personal profile] goldenglasses 2017-07-09 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Are you serious right now? Vash takes a moment and then speaks calmly in a tone he's really hopeful does not come out as condescending. His intention is to be helpful.

"Well, for most strategies to work past the idea of: we want to come up with a strategy! It's important for the other side to not know what you're planning. As if the other side knows what you're planning and they have more resources, powers, control, and abilities? Then they can stop you. Easily. Before you can even put a plan into action usually."

Vash is a bit flabbergasted. He can't tell if she was being serious about why it was a terrible idea to discuss plans where the group you're fighting against can hear.

"For example, have you ever played poker before? Or-or any competitive card game before? If you have, would you really want to play where you show the other players what cards you have? Of course not! They would instantly know if you have good cards and would wait until you don't before they try to steal all your money and you lose. This is the same thing except instead of playing for fun or money we're playing with people's lives so that makes it even more important that we're careful."

Vash is starting to worry that Mallory may end up getting people killed. Of course there is a chance that recklessness may lead to enough of a surprise to help them, but at what cost will that come?

"The only thing this group may have is numbers so if we talk to each other less and each go around doing our own things then we'll be disorganized and may lose the only advantage we may have."
norwaysown: (command)

[personal profile] norwaysown 2017-07-09 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Signy doesn't roll her eyes, but it's a near thing. In general she's not comfortable with these people, and she doesn't think like them. That doesn't need to be a disadvantage. This meeting here hasn't shown any sign of helping, though, and she doesn't think more meetings -- even if they can somehow speak freely at them, which she doubts will ever be safe -- are the answer.

"You're proposing that we start a game of bridge, partner up and figure out how to engage in planning specifics without anyone catching on to what we're talking about. Poker's the better option.

"The only way we have a chance is if we make this less organized and more guerrilla in nature." And she fully intends to have a chance with it. They don't have the numbers on the Atroma, that much seems pretty obvious. "Coordinating all of us into some sort of combined attack doesn't make sense, regardless of the specific strategy you think you can come up with at some golden point in the future."

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