winn: (19)

[personal profile] winn 2016-07-04 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
We're not going to.

[ he'll just have to have faith for the both of them. and work while she's asleep. ]
passingthrough: (Amused - Sideways glance)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2016-07-04 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Kara has powers to beat me up now if I let you get all overworked.
winn: (18)

[personal profile] winn 2016-07-04 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Kara knows me long enough to know I'm unstoppable.

[ he's pretty sure that as long as he isn't making himself physically ill - she wouldn't intervene. she looks at him much closer on the fleet than she did at home - but he doesn't think things have changed that much. ]

She wouldn't blame you.
passingthrough: (Touched)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2016-07-04 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not actually worried about Kara in this scenario.
winn: (Elementary my dear Watson)

[personal profile] winn 2016-07-04 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't worry, if I stay up too long, I get called into the principal's office.

[ forever how he's calling jim's little talks. of course, one of the great advantages of sleeping at an inn is that jim isn't going to catch him wandering over to kara's office in the middle of the night - he can just drag his research to the bathroom or outside and no one will ever know. ]
passingthrough: (Claws)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2016-07-04 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there an actual principal in this scenario? [What are you talking about, Winn?]
winn: (If I tell you I’ll have to kill you)

[personal profile] winn 2016-07-04 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
[ he lets out a short uncomfortable laugh. when he told kara about it it was a funny and endearing anecdote. but somehow telling kitty is more...embarrassing. ]

It's what I call it when Jim tells me off.

[ bizarrely, despite his words, what comes through is a wave of deep affection for the man. ]
passingthrough: (Watchful)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2016-07-04 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Jim tells you off? Should I beat Jim up? [That feeling she's getting already says no.]
winn: (53)

[personal profile] winn 2016-07-04 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
[ he kisses her appreciatively ]

That's very sweet - but no, he only does it cuz he cares.

[ and that'll never stop being amazing to him, that so many people care so much about him. ] He's like a protective big brother.

[ who even leaves bruises on him -- except that he does it while trying to teach him to avoid letting anyone else do permanent or serious damage to him instead of while fighting over the remote. ]
passingthrough: (Curious - Interested)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2016-07-04 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
You two have gotten close, haven't you? [No jealousy this time!] What have you been doing?
winn: (07)

[personal profile] winn 2016-07-04 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Just guy stuff.

[ ok not just but even though he knows she's noticed - how can she miss the bruises all over him? - he can't help but worry that his trying to learn self defense is going to be met with ridicule.

and he really does like that jim's someone he can talk tech, talk things out, have a drink, and yeah - even work out with. he's one of the few people who never makes him feel like he's one of the girls, and he's so grateful for it. ]
passingthrough: (Sitting - On the edge)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2016-07-04 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Like scratching and grunting?
winn: (18)

[personal profile] winn 2016-07-04 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
[ he grunts in reply. sorry, the joke was right there he had to take it. ]
passingthrough: (Amused - Playful)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2016-07-06 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
[She punches his arm lightly.] Talking about girls you're sleeping with?
winn: (06)

[personal profile] winn 2016-07-06 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
No just...talking.

[ though that makes him feel a little guilty. would kitty be angry, that he goes to talk to jim and not her? it's easier, because he doesn't worry about impressing jim. he can be an obnoxious insufferable brat and make him bully every last word out of him, and jim will still be there. and...jim always gives him just the reaction he needs, whether it's telling him not in a million years could he become his father and even if somehow that'll happen he'll snap him back, or telling him that he has every right to be angry at someone. he knows exactly which points to hit. ]

And training. [ because yeah, suddenly making fun of him seems like a preferable topic. ] He's teaching me self defense. [ though from his assortment of bruises it may look more like he's teaching him to be a punching bag. ]
passingthrough: (Curious - More than the surface)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2016-07-06 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
[She would not be angry. She may not have 100% positive feelings about it, just because she doesn't know what is being said or if any of it is things she needs to hear for herself. And the awkwardness of someone else knowing some of her business without knowing what they know, but in general Winn having friends is a good thing. He should. He always should have. She wants him to feel happy and secure and loved and not just from her.]

Yeah, I was wondering about that. Were you waiting for me to ask? [Should she have asked?]
winn: (If I tell you I’ll have to kill you)

[personal profile] winn 2016-07-06 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
[ he's being as careful as he can not to bring up kitty's personal business with anyone, which is sometimes hard because he could really use talking to jim about how he feels about her death. but he has plenty of issues that relate only to himself that he can manage a few years worth of conversations without bringing her personal stuff into it. ]

More like I was waiting for me to not be so laughably bad.

[ he feels so insecure with every aspect of physical training, he was only too happy to pretend like there's nothing to talk about so long as she didn't mention it either. though it did...seem weird to him that she didn't mention it, but then again how unharmed he was before was probably what looked weird to her. ]

Or...yeah, til you brought it up. [ which asking what he does with jim kind of qualifies as. ]
passingthrough: (Contemplative)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2016-07-06 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
[He's not wrong. That was part of it. She has them sometimes from her workouts especially if she manages to get a sparring partner. And she didn't want to treat him like he was fragile. There's also the part where she tended to see them when they were...otherwise engaged and she was very distracted.]

Training is a good idea. [Anyone from a post-apocalyptic civilization is likely to say that, right?] And the only way to get better at something is to work at it. There's never a reason to laugh at someone who's making an effort.
winn: (01)

[personal profile] winn 2016-07-06 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
[ he can think of a few reasons -- he's really bad at this, he's only now getting the hang of talking and jogging. ]

I'm definitely doing that - [ making an effort. no one can take that away from him. it just feels humiliatingly unsuccessful. ]
passingthrough: (Considering)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2016-07-06 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
So, what brought it on?
winn: (19)

[personal profile] winn 2016-07-06 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
[ he squirms a little because, well, it's not a happy topic which - obviously. nothing that would send him to try and learn self defense would be he's not the sort of person who'd do this for fun. ]

The incident on the Iskaulit.

[ it's always on his mind. it could happen again, it could happen to anyone. and then what? ]
passingthrough: (Contemplative)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2016-07-06 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
[Softly.] Yeah. That makes sense.

And as much as I would love to be with you all the time. I know I can't be. Neither can Kara. [Is that insulting? Should she be assuming he wants to defend them?]
winn: (05)

[personal profile] winn 2016-07-06 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
I know. And if I dunno how to take care of myself, I'm just putting anyone trying to help me at risk.

[ oh sure, he'd like to, but he's not that delusional. honestly he's just hoping to be able to get away on his own, so they don't have to worry about him and focus on taking care of themselves and subdue whoever needs subduing. ]
passingthrough: (Kissing - Slightly parted)

[personal profile] passingthrough 2016-07-08 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if you ever want any tips, I'm here. Otherwise, I'll just wish you well and hope you never get the chance to put it to the test. [Kissing his cheek.]
winn: (61)

[personal profile] winn 2016-07-08 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks.

[ he smiles, genuinely appreciating it. he knows she has a lot to teach him, but he feels comfortable doing this with kirk. he'd be too self conscious trying to train with kitty around, too embarrassed to make the mistakes he needs to make to actually learn something. he wants to impress her way too much for her to be a practical teacher for him. and besides, these workouts are precious bonding time for him and jim. ]

Here's hoping.

[ because honestly he's so bad he can't imagine there ever being a scenario where he's forced to put his skills to the test and comes out of it in one piece. ]

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