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Voices from Heaven ([personal profile] thespaceopera) wrote in [community profile] driftfleet2015-10-20 11:18 am

...And also these.

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  • dancingmd: (concerned)

    [personal profile] dancingmd 2015-11-22 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
    [She comes back over to Daneel and rests a comforting hand on his shoulder.] I'm sorry. You cared for him, didn't you?
    thezerothlaw: (neutral)

    [personal profile] thezerothlaw 2015-11-23 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
    I--

    [It's hard to say that, and he pauses on it. It's true. It's just hard to admit that aloud, to a human.]

    He was significant to me. He had a deep understanding of human nature, and I learned much from him. I had expected for us to be working together for many years. Yes, I did care for him.
    dancingmd: (looking down)

    [personal profile] dancingmd 2015-11-23 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
    [Beverly gives him a sad smile.] Why don't you tell me some of the things you learned from him?
    thezerothlaw: (thinking)

    [personal profile] thezerothlaw 2015-11-24 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
    He taught me much about necessary sacrifices, even if he was not entirely able to make one. He taught me that sometimes, acting to protect can cause more harm, though invisible harm that most would never admit to. He taught me--

    [Another window flickers into life, showing Giskard again, in yet another conversation with Daneel while the humans sleep.

    "It strikes me that it has taken me so long to understand this only because I am not a human being. A human being would, perhaps, instinctively understand his own mind well enough to know how to handle others like himself. Madam Gladia, with no experience at all in addressing huge crowds, carried off the matter expertly. How much better off we would be if we had someone like Elijah Baley with us. -- Friend Daneel, are you not thinking of him?"

    "Can you see his image in my mind? That is surprising, friend Giskard."

    "I do not see him, friend Daneel. I cannot receive your thoughts. But I can sense emotions and mood -- and your mind has a texture which, by past experience, I know to be associated with Elijah Baley."

    The screen fades, and Daneel does look slightly perturbed.]

    Friend Giskard taught me much of the nature of minds, as I said.
    dancingmd: (listening)

    [personal profile] dancingmd 2015-11-25 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
    [Beverly tilts her head curiously.] Giskard was an empath?

    [She had not thought such a thing would be possible with androids.]
    thezerothlaw: (i'm on the phone)

    [personal profile] thezerothlaw 2015-11-25 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
    Yes. He possessed mental powers.

    [This is not quite going the way he would expect -- that is to say, with far less condemnation than he might have thought. Still, Daneel is cautious.]

    They were given to him accidentally. He hid this for many years. It is this that gave him such insight into the human mind.
    dancingmd: (why aren't we all being interrogated?)

    [personal profile] dancingmd 2015-11-25 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
    [In fact, there is no condemnation at all, only a scientific, and indeed, personal interest.]

    Fascinating! I have of course encountered such abilities in many other species before but it simply never occurred to me that such a sense could be replicated in an artificial life form.

    [She is starting to get excited, waving her hands around for emphasis and pacing as she thinks.]

    But why not? Soong-type androids, as we have discussed before, have trouble enough processing their own emotions. But, you, and presumably Giskard too, have no such problem. And the Prytt have the psi-wave devices, which are built for organic beings, but presumably they could be modified for androids. It might only work in one direction in that case, allowing the android to read the organic mind, but not vice versa. And it is only designed for a limited number of people...

    [She pauses, realizing she is starting to ramble.]

    I'm sorry, I am probably not making any sense. You see, my captain and I were kidnapped once, by people who use a telepathic device for interrogations. We escaped before they could interrogate us, but we still had the devices implanted and so were able to read one another's minds until we were rescued and the devices could be removed safely.
    thezerothlaw: (concerned)

    [personal profile] thezerothlaw 2015-11-26 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
    [For a moment, Daneel only stares at her. This is. This is completely game-changing.]

    Then you are used to dealing with telepathic abilities. This is... not the case. I have reason to suspect that many humans possess the potential to some degree, so the possibility of a race in which all, or even most, have well-developed skills is certainly there.

    [He's earnest, and well, he generally is earnest, but he's especially earnest right now, in the face of a huge confession.]

    It is an unknown ability, despite that. A robot with such an ability would almost certainly be deactivated, dismantled, and dissected. Friend Giskard had to be very cautious. He was capable not only of sensing the emotional state of minds around him, but of adjusting them, though of course such a thing had to be done very carefully, if at all.

    He... passed the the programming matrix to me before he ceased functioning.
    dancingmd: (concerned)

    [personal profile] dancingmd 2015-11-26 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
    [Her interest immediately turns into concern for her friend. Temporary deactivation to deal with rogue programming, she can understand, but full dismantling? That is something else entirely. Even with Lore, it was not something any of them undertook lightly.]

    Oh, Daneel. I am so sorry you had to keep that part of yourself secret from me. I would have never... One of my best friends is an empath. I'm not only used to it... I have kind have missed it, missed her. But even if I had never known her, never had experienced telepathy myself, I care about you and would never do anything to purposely hurt you.
    thezerothlaw: (neutral)

    [personal profile] thezerothlaw 2015-11-26 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
    You have no reason to apologise. If anything, I'm sorry I was not entirely honest.

    [It would be hard to believe if he didn't have the evidence right in front of him.]

    It has only been a solar year. I am still learning the limits of my abilities. I... have not had much opportunity to confide in anyone.
    dancingmd: (smile)

    [personal profile] dancingmd 2015-11-26 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
    Well... [She gives him a soft smile.] Now you have me.

    [and he can be sure as hell she will do all she can to help and protect him.]
    thezerothlaw: (calm)

    [personal profile] thezerothlaw 2015-11-27 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
    Evidently, I was very fortunate to make your acquaintance.

    [This is a huge understatement. Daneel takes a long sigh, a release more than anything.]

    Some species, where you are from, all possess telepathic abilities? It would be seen as normal for them, surely.
    dancingmd: (chinhands)

    [personal profile] dancingmd 2015-11-28 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
    Of course. None of them consider it a "power" or even a special ability. For telepathic species, it's simply another sense, like hearing or smell. In the case of the Aenar, it is their primary means of locating themselves in the world, since they have lost their sense of sight over the millennia. The Cairn telepathically communicate with one another via images, rather than words, so they actually have great difficulty in communicating with non-telepathic species. Vulcans must be in physical contact with someone to read their mind, while Betazoids have no such limitation... sometimes Deanna can sense the emotions of people on another ship or even on a planet below. So there is a great deal of variety among telepathic races, in how their abilities operate.
    thezerothlaw: (concerned)

    [personal profile] thezerothlaw 2015-12-01 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
    To another planet? I know Giskard was able to touch the minds of men on other ships, but that came with practice. I certainly don't have that sort of range. Perhaps, with time.

    Telepathy is not known. It is a rumour that most do not believe in, and those who do would distrust it. There is a very old story, dating to the beginnings of robotics in the early 21st century, about the famed robopsychologist Susan Calvin and a robot with telepathy that told lies that people wished to hear, rather than disappoint them and cause them harm.

    [He pauses.]

    That story does not end well for the robot. Most believe it to be exaggerated, however, or entirely fabricated.
    dancingmd: (concerned)

    [personal profile] dancingmd 2015-12-01 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
    [She nods, slowly.]It's a disconcerting - violating, even - experience at first. We're used to our privacy, to having a buffer between us and everyone else. So it scares us, to have our minds read like that, especially when there are those who do deliberately - unlike the robot in your old story - use their telepathic or empathic senses to hurt people.

    [She takes his hands and gazes at him with intense earnestness.]

    But I trust you and I know you would not do that. I hope you trust me too, because I'm not going to let anyone harm you, whether it's for being a robot or for being empathic, or both.
    thezerothlaw: (interested)

    [personal profile] thezerothlaw 2015-12-01 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
    [Daneel looks down at their clasped hands, mildly surprised, but he squeezes her fingers gently. He's certainly not about to turn her away, and the gesture is more than appreciated.]

    You are very kind, Dr. Crusher. I'm not certain what it is I've done to deserve this consideration, but I thank you.
    dancingmd: (smile)

    [personal profile] dancingmd 2015-12-02 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
    [She smiles, both at his surprise and the appreciative squeeze.]

    It's the right thing to do. Besides, we're friends, aren't we?
    thezerothlaw: (neutral)

    [personal profile] thezerothlaw 2015-12-04 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
    I... yes, I suppose we are.
    dancingmd: (listening)

    [personal profile] dancingmd 2015-12-04 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
    [Mulling over that "I suppose," she gazes at him for a long moment.]

    You're not used to humans saying that, are you?
    thezerothlaw: (stare)

    [personal profile] thezerothlaw 2015-12-04 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
    No, I am not. Partner Elijah said it to me, but it is generally not a thing robots are thought capable of. I disagree on this point, but few would take my opinion on this matter.
    dancingmd: (smile)

    [personal profile] dancingmd 2015-12-04 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
    Your opinion matters to me. [She squeezes his hands again before letting go.] As long as you believe we're friends, and I believe we're friends, then that's the important thing.
    thezerothlaw: (thinking)

    [personal profile] thezerothlaw 2015-12-04 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
    Then, as you say, we are friends.

    [This triggers a memory: there's Elijah Baley, and Giskard nearby, and a coldly beautiful woman with tight blonde curls. She looks at Daneel with an expression that is equal parts curious and bitter.

    "Partner Elijah? Is that what you call him?"

    "Yes, Dr. Vasilia," is Daneel's calm response. "My choice in this matter -- the Earthhman over you -- arises not only out of Dr. Fastolfe's instructions, but because the Earthman and I are partners in this investigation and because--" He pauses, just as he had to Beverly just now, "--we are friends."

    "Friends? An Earthman and a humaniform robot?" Vasilia is nothing short of mocking. "Well, there is a match. Neither quite human."

    "Nevertheless, bound by friendship," Baley interjects, sharply. "Do not, for your own sake, test the force of our--" And he pauses, too, sounding vaguely surprised about how he finishes the sentence: "--love."

    The memory fades.]
    dancingmd: (smile)

    [personal profile] dancingmd 2015-12-05 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
    [The memory elicits another soft smile from Beverly, though there is a brief flash of displeasure with this Dr. Vasilia for her dismissal of both Elijah and Daneel. What truly matters here, however, is the bond between the two of them. It's gratifying to know Daneel has people who love him at home.]

    Elijah seems like a good man.
    thezerothlaw: (chinscratch)

    [personal profile] thezerothlaw 2015-12-06 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
    He was. I often think of him, and consider what he would have done when I am not certain which action is the best to take. He spoke to me of humanity as a tapestry. I believe he was only trying to soften the blow of his death for me, but I think he may have been more right than he knew. He was often... intuitive.
    dancingmd: (listening)

    [personal profile] dancingmd 2015-12-07 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
    A tapestry? How so?

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